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		<title>By: Jenn Sierra</title>
		<link>http://forthardknox.com/2008/07/22/a-portent-of-things-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-8331</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenn Sierra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand your point, Ron, and respect your opinion, but just completely disagree.  Thank you for articulating it, however, in a rational, respectful manner.  If I could actually visualize liberal America waking up when they realize Obama is president, I might be willing to give this approach a try.

I just don&#039;t see it happening. Yes, I know a lot of folks are hoping Obama will bring on the next Reagan.  But the &quot;Moral Majority&quot; got Reagan elected when they convinced a bunch of (relatively) conservative Democrats to vote Republican. The men who formed the Moral Majority are mostly deceased, and we&#039;re in a whole different world now.  My fear is that with a socialist Senate, House and President (and soon a socialist Supreme Court) running our lives, schools and the internet, the conservatives and Christians will be treated as political dissidents, and will soon be driven underground.  And there is no place else to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand your point, Ron, and respect your opinion, but just completely disagree.  Thank you for articulating it, however, in a rational, respectful manner.  If I could actually visualize liberal America waking up when they realize Obama is president, I might be willing to give this approach a try.</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t see it happening. Yes, I know a lot of folks are hoping Obama will bring on the next Reagan.  But the &#8220;Moral Majority&#8221; got Reagan elected when they convinced a bunch of (relatively) conservative Democrats to vote Republican. The men who formed the Moral Majority are mostly deceased, and we&#8217;re in a whole different world now.  My fear is that with a socialist Senate, House and President (and soon a socialist Supreme Court) running our lives, schools and the internet, the conservatives and Christians will be treated as political dissidents, and will soon be driven underground.  And there is no place else to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t mince words Jenn, tell me how you really feel!

Seriously, darkest before the dawn doesn&#039;t necessarily mean that dawn is coming.  That would be a logical fallacy.  There are certainly other situations where darkest seems to come first.  One example may be the end of America as we know it.  That&#039;s why I&#039;ve advocated ending this constant lesser of two evils approach that I believe has landed us where we are.

You know my argument since I&#039;ve expressed it on these pages.  I don&#039;t see voting for McCain as in any way fighting evil.  Rather, I believe supporting McCain is supporting evil.  Yes, Obama is, perhaps, more evil.  But I&#039;ve determined to stop supporting evil at all.

As for the sleeping masses, I&#039;ve argued this before here too and your comment supports my position.  Things have to get worse at a more accelerated rate before people will see actual cause and effect.  As it is and has been, results lag causes by to great a margin for the average person to put them together.  This is absolutely the result of our modern education system that fails (intentionally in my view) to teach critical thinking.  Until effects are obviously related to their causes, the American electorate will not wake up from its stupor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t mince words Jenn, tell me how you really feel!</p>
<p>Seriously, darkest before the dawn doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean that dawn is coming.  That would be a logical fallacy.  There are certainly other situations where darkest seems to come first.  One example may be the end of America as we know it.  That&#8217;s why I&#8217;ve advocated ending this constant lesser of two evils approach that I believe has landed us where we are.</p>
<p>You know my argument since I&#8217;ve expressed it on these pages.  I don&#8217;t see voting for McCain as in any way fighting evil.  Rather, I believe supporting McCain is supporting evil.  Yes, Obama is, perhaps, more evil.  But I&#8217;ve determined to stop supporting evil at all.</p>
<p>As for the sleeping masses, I&#8217;ve argued this before here too and your comment supports my position.  Things have to get worse at a more accelerated rate before people will see actual cause and effect.  As it is and has been, results lag causes by to great a margin for the average person to put them together.  This is absolutely the result of our modern education system that fails (intentionally in my view) to teach critical thinking.  Until effects are obviously related to their causes, the American electorate will not wake up from its stupor.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn Sierra</title>
		<link>http://forthardknox.com/2008/07/22/a-portent-of-things-to-come/comment-page-1/#comment-8322</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenn Sierra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who are these &quot;slumbering masses&quot;? Most of America has been successfully indocrinated in the socialist public school system for the last two generations, and doesn&#039;t even understand why Obama&#039;s ideas and methods are wrong.  

The vast majority of Christians have stopped reading the Bible for themselves, and don&#039;t even understand how it relates to the U.S.A..  We can&#039;t count on them to rise up and do much of anything except cower in the corner like victims with no recourse.

And far too many political conservatives are just now figuring out that the internet has been overtaken by communist propaganda, and instead of fighting it, so many want to just avoid dealing with it altogether.

In 1979 I had a brother in a coma in the hospital.  Well-meaning folks kept coming up to me, and to my parents and telling us not to worry, that things were always &quot;darkest before the dawn.&quot;  Well, our dawn in that situation never came.  He died.  So, sometimes it just seems &quot;darkest&quot; right before things get even darker. 

Now, 2008, is the time to fight the evil that is overtaking America.  If we don&#039;t, 2010, and 2012 may be too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who are these &#8220;slumbering masses&#8221;? Most of America has been successfully indocrinated in the socialist public school system for the last two generations, and doesn&#8217;t even understand why Obama&#8217;s ideas and methods are wrong.  </p>
<p>The vast majority of Christians have stopped reading the Bible for themselves, and don&#8217;t even understand how it relates to the U.S.A..  We can&#8217;t count on them to rise up and do much of anything except cower in the corner like victims with no recourse.</p>
<p>And far too many political conservatives are just now figuring out that the internet has been overtaken by communist propaganda, and instead of fighting it, so many want to just avoid dealing with it altogether.</p>
<p>In 1979 I had a brother in a coma in the hospital.  Well-meaning folks kept coming up to me, and to my parents and telling us not to worry, that things were always &#8220;darkest before the dawn.&#8221;  Well, our dawn in that situation never came.  He died.  So, sometimes it just seems &#8220;darkest&#8221; right before things get even darker. </p>
<p>Now, 2008, is the time to fight the evil that is overtaking America.  If we don&#8217;t, 2010, and 2012 may be too late.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well SOMETHING has to awaken this country!  So far little has worked.  Perhaps Mr. Obama can actually rouse the slumbering masses who presently seem to have little notion of what&#039;s going on or where this country is actually headed.  Isn&#039;t it always darkest before the dawn?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well SOMETHING has to awaken this country!  So far little has worked.  Perhaps Mr. Obama can actually rouse the slumbering masses who presently seem to have little notion of what&#8217;s going on or where this country is actually headed.  Isn&#8217;t it always darkest before the dawn?</p>
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