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  1. Jenn Sierra Jenn Sierra says:

    Maggie, I think Pelosi would be surprised to find how many people are willing to go to jail rather than to pay for that.

    • Zach says:

      Straight from the 11/07/2009 House Health Care bill:

      Are there penalties for failure to provide insurance coverage?

      Yes, or pay a penalty of 2.5 percent of your pay. Hardship and religious waivers would be available, and some very low-wage earners would be exempt. The requirement would begin in 2013.

      If an Employer chooses not to provide any employee coverage the employer is subject to pay a penalty that is 8 percent of the employees pay.

    • Jenn, I am reading around the Internet that many will not be quiet about this. Now we have to pray that the Senate has the fortitude to stop it. My Senator (and yours) still says it is dead on arrival and Lieberman says he will filibuster if there is a public option.

      • lynn maust says:

        Good info for us all..as a matter of fact, this takeover of our Federal government is not dissimilar to the takeover forces of the Federal government in the ‘civil war’ against the seceded Southern states.

        As former Confederate President, Jefferson Davis, said: “The Principle for which we contended is bound to reassert itself, though it may be at another time and in another form.” I personally believe that at this time in our history, once AGAIN, “….the cause of the South is the cause of us ALL”. (Alexander Stephens, former VP of the Confederacy). Something to consider…. LM (a Northerner, by the way)

  2. Cindy says:

    Today may be a sad day in America in regards to public funded abortions. Waiting to hear on Pitts-Stupak Amedment. Can’t believe its necessary in the land of the free. The liberal left have lost their minds. Seriously!
    I am currently looking for a new country. I would prefer an all out, all up front dictator than having my tax dollars fund abortions.

  3. Zach says:

    Greetings,

    Demonizing a requirement that everyone who can afford Healthcare pay into their Healthcare belies the facts that we as U.S. citizens face. Healthcare costs are on a runaway trajectory for the Regular “Joe & Jane,” Healthcare Companies can deny payment of your catastrophic medical cost’s for a “Hang nail” that you reported during a yearly checkup with the Doctor as an 18 years old.

    Everyone reading my response owns a car, OR knows a number of people who do own cars, and in each and every case where a car is driven on a public roadway the driver of that car must be an insured driver. The policy REQUIRING AUTOMOBILE INSURANCE is around 20 years old now in my state and is simply accepted as standard operating procedure, and has contributed to overall public safety in a big way.

    THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE – has reported that over 10 years the House plan reduces the deficit $129 billion dollars, and for the 10 years after that as well. Not only is it critical to to reduce the deficit, but is also critical to reduce the cost of delivering Health Care to you and I which is another key part of this bill.

    After ALL of the cutting, trimming, tweaking, and revamping, in order to increase the national insurance pool and guarantee your coverage, then we are each going to have to chip in to make it work efficiently.

    • Jenn Sierra Jenn Sierra says:

      Zach, as someone who has been victimized by our current health care system, I’m not here to defend it. But if you’re truly and honestly thinking that a government takeover of the sytem is going to make it BETTER…?! You really need to walk through the halls of an inner-city public school or drive through a government housing project. Get ready for our hospitals and clinics to look just like that.

      • Zach says:

        GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER, Government Takeover, Government Takeover…

        This is NOT a Government Takeover. Reform = creating a different way to achieve the desired results. Calling this a “Government Takeover” is a tactic to frighten people. Just like in the Car Industry, I hear that Government has taken over the Domestic Automobile Industry, well that is no more true, than Government taking over Health Care. First, the Government doesn’t have the people it would take to do all of that, 2nd it is reform, not a Government Takeover.

        You are required to buy automobile insurance because that protects everyone, lowers the cost of auto insurance, and increases dafety on the road.

        Requiring everyone to own insurance does the same thing, that is a market principle as you know, the more pencils that are bought, the lower the cost because of “Economies of Scale.” That is what occurs with more people on the insurance roles the cost to insure drops for various reasons, (more money in the insurers hands, healthier outcomes, lowered costs to the Hospitals)

        I don’t know if you have insurance now or not, but for the past 30 years, insurance companies have been placing more and more cost controls in place with the HMO, and PPO the most frustrating part of these changes. We hear this nonsense that a Government bureaucrat will be between you an your Doctor, please. There will be NO Government peple anywhere inside of the equation, the hospital, the Doctors office, OR on the phone will you. But, to address this argument presently the insurance company places their HMO between you and your Doctor and denies what you need to get done, lots of us don’t even get needed medical procedures because we cannot afford them, but mainly because they will be denied by the HMO.

        If you have Medicare, OR Social Security you know they work extremely well and proficiently, the only part of this deal that the Government would be involved in materially is the Public Option, and it will operate just like Medicare.

        This business about takeover is just a boogieman.

    • lynn maust says:

      Mandatory health care is NOT the same as mandatory drivers’/auto insurance. Rush Limbaugh explained this this past week on his radio address….there you are insuring yourself against ANOTHER person’s (as well as your own) misdeed that results in an accident. AND you don’t HAVE to buy auto ins. if you don’t own a car…nor drive,for Pete’s sake!
      LM

  4. Earl Billingham says:

    Medical care will diminish and people in the healthcare field will move to country’s that are hospitable to what Pelosi is making too expensive for them here and for us. They’ll go on strike against the United States and I don’t blame them! The Democrats will probably use a draft(like FDR did in WW11)and try to force the medical professionals to stay here. Who really knows what’s going on in Nancy Pelosi’s head?

  5. Zach, you may see the requirement to have a driver’s license as “standard operating procedure,” that “standard operating procedure” has to mean something. In this case, it was intended to find a way to your door when you do something to hurt or endanger someone. Today it has morphed into an invasion of privacy by requiring fingerprints, and I really hate that. It should not be “sop.” My driving may hurt someone, my health will not (with a few exceptions). This is a way to control your last bastion of privacy – your relationship with your physician. That privacy has been dwindling away in the past few years, and with this legislation – your control over your life is over, AND the joke is on everyone wanting this insane “reform,” because it is far from free, far from efficient, and far from merciful.

    I’m not defending insurance companies. I’m defending my right to make my decisions about my own health. This bill gives me no control.

    • Zach says:

      I agree with everything you say there in principle except to say that your health can hurt others, the people who are cluttering up the Emergency rooms because they have no insurance is a dreadful burden to us all. If those people were in a public option the tax payer still pays but WE pay considerably less. PERSONALLY, I think everyone should pay what they can afford to pay, with everyone in the pool the risk goes DOWN making insurance more affordable. In reality the whole damn thing thing is ONE BIG POOL of money it’s just divided up under a heading like Aetna, The Hartford, AIG, John Hancock, Mutual Of Omaha, Prudential, etc., are just the names of the people standing between Yourself AND your treatment, they are who decide if your Gall Bladder is covered, OR if it is an existing condition or not, but so long as we are going to use a ridiculous for profit model as our system of Health Care.

      One business model that works exceedingly well for medicine, particularly the Hospitals is to get rid of the FOR PROFIT thing with share holders etc., is the Foundation. I live here in Fort Worth and just across the county line in downtown Dallas is the Baylor University Medical Center NOT to be confused with the Baylor University Campus which is in Waco. But, the way it works is just like a for profit setup, because it IS making a profit it has to in order to survive, but it has much slimmer margins, because it’s primary goal is to serve its patient’s, where as say for instance Health South is profit motivated first with people taking enormous salaries into the millions of dollars to run it, AND the KEY is a Business Corporation operates quarter to quarter with another goal, To KEEP IT’S SHARE PRICE UP. The Foundation doesn’t know how to spell quarter, just a joke, but they are planning long term 10, 20, 30, years into the future and guess what Baylor University Medical Center is the biggest and best Hospital in Dallas and one of the top Hospitals in the Nation. I think people would be surprised at how many are setup like Baylor is. Look, I’m not trying to smoke anybody, Baylor is paying for top executives too, but for fewer dollars for fewer individuals.

      In 5 years the cost TO YOUR BUSINESS that you either own, or drive to work to daily is going to pay DOUBLE what it is paying now, again in just 5 years. I hope to still be living don’t you as well…? We have to get the Health Care plan on the books there are a lot of very good changes in the way YOUR business, OR you are personally treated by Insurer’s with this bill. It doesn’t even go into effect until 2013 and this thing can be changed over time to make it work better. In 5 years I will not be able to afford my health care.

  6. Lisa Calvert says:

    I know Tim stands for moral values that our country seems to be lacking from. I believe Tim can bring hope back into our country with his strong work ethics and his perserverence to get the job(s) done and done right. I have no doubt that Tim Coager will be a great Senator for Oklahoma.

  7. Ken B. says:

    I have had the privilege to work with Tim and get to know him over the last fourteen years. Tim is a solid conservative, driven and committed to doing what’s best for our country. As a veteran he knows what cheerful service and hard work it takes to make America great. When Tim is elected, I expect great things from him; he will represent the district and state well. Go Tim!

  8. Clay B says:

    I have known Tim for more than 10 years. His knowledge of our govt and his desire to help is highly respected. Also I think very highly of his service to his country(14 yrs in the Marines)and his desire to continue to give.

  9. Bart H says:

    I also have had the privilege to work with Tim and get to know him over the last fourteen years. He is always ready not only to do the right thing but dedicate himself to seeing that it is done the right way and to completion. Being the conservative he is and knowing him, I have no reservations about him putting our interests (as a people and a nation)in the forefront of his endeavors. I have been impressed with his ability to meet adversity head on with a calmness and assuredness that facilitates resolution and respect. No matter what the venue and type battle, Tim is a man that I know is a true leader. Count on me Tim !! Go Get Em’!!

  10. EricTheRed says:

    There’s an old Soviet joke: The future is known; it’s the past that’s always changing.

    Seriously, what a slap in the face to Ronald Reagan in particular and the United States in general. Discussing the fall of the Berlin Wall without mentioning Ronald Reagan is like discussing Christmas without mentioning Chr… Oh, never mind.

    Anyone under the age of 20 did not live at the time of the Cold War or when Ronald Reagan was President of the United States and took on the Soviets until the end. Without their news anchors or school teachers informing them about the Cold War and the events that led up to the fall of the Wall, our young people will not know the truth about one of the greatest moments of America’s direct involvement in world history.

    That, in my humble opinion, is exactly what Brian Williams and Tom Brokaw, were hoping.

    Josef Stalin would’ve been proud.

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  11. Jenn Sierra Jenn Sierra says:

    I think Pelosi stole this idea from Hillary Clinton’s campaign, in 2007..?!

  12. Buffoon Buffoon says:

    Listening to Rush today I heard that our communist over lord lectured Chinese students on the harshness of American society towards women…

    We’re surrounded by ignorant serfs Tex… and I don’t like it.

  13. Tim Brown says:

    This is ridiculous BS. I’ll be 50 in a few weeks and I’ve heard “happy holidays” all my life! I mean come on, what about Thanksgiving? Never mind Hanukkah, Kwanzaa (yes, people really do celebrate it ;-) The Equinox and New years? The “reason for the season” is that early Roman Christians couldn’t get pagans to stop celebrating the Festival of Sol Invictus or the Equinox/ New year. Sorry kids but there is exactly zero evidence for christ being born on dec.25th! And the xmas tree? Pure Germanic Pagan tradition! And since I used it, “X-mas” is NOT a commie liberal plot against christ, it was an early symbol used BY CHRISTIANS! ! You all desperately need to get over yourselves and somehow get lives . . .

  14. Margie Diebold says:

    The stimulus package is insanity in politics, Nancy Pelosi and Chris Dodd, among so many others will always be remembered as Children of Satan. God Bless President Obama, but he is so very naive, saying that they won allows them to make all the choices is not what this country is about. I am very afraid for America, God Bless you for taking this step,we as Americans are smart, but frustrated on how our voices can be heard. Margie Diebold

  15. Scott Brown says:

    This is all PORK. The “CHANGE” is government taking over business when the can’t even run their own stuff!!

  16. I was surprised to find out that there are certain Health Care details in this (stupid)spending PORK, bill that are not being told to us, especially the Senior Citizens.Being a senior citizen and a R.N., retired I thought our Health Care would be discussed with the people at a later date, when we had more time to figure on what is best in cost. I am furious, like everyone else, that this Universal Health Care is being pushed now in secret. What is this new idea that one of our Senators stated, that I should after 65 accept the diseases that my getting older brings and that I shouldn’t receive the latest treatment because of cost? Wait till all the Seniors find this out, like I did today! Tell them to simulate the economy not my BLOOD PRESSURE, as it may cost more for me(Like shortening my life). Get all this crap (NOW) out of the bill or we the people will remember them in the next election and SHORTEN their terms in office. Carol Rudisill

  17. Darwin Smith says:

    No Stimulus. This is going way too fast. Don’t spend money we don’t have. The money for ACORN is obscene. Also this is supposed to be a stimulus package so why would there be reference to health care. These are separate issues, deal with them on their own merit.This bill needs to fail the way it is written.This is a rush to socialism. Our forefathers would be ashamed of this presidential administration and the congress. I think it is way past time for term limits-throw all of these bums out of office. It’s time for some real people to govern, not these out of touch aristocrats.

  18. The disclosure of the scheme for implementing socialized healthcare included in this outrageous porkulus bill should wake up even the most dense among us to the FACT that We have elected the most evil, cunning, and arrogant gang of marxist devils this country has ever seen. Unless god-fearing, conservative Americans stand up against this smarmy, murderous gang of thieves and low-lifes, all the blood of all the patriots who stood against evil and died that We could be free, will be on our heads. How can a president educated and raised by the chicago mob be an honest broker? GIVE ME A BREAK!! The democrat party has always been the refuge and spokesman for every anti-government, anti-God group of scoundrels that ever raised their ugly heads. this disastrous, wasteful spending bill will bring the economic ceiling down on their own heads as well as ours, but most are too blind and stupid to see this. I love my country as probably all of You, and Im mad as **** and I ain’t gonna take these lies and garbage lying down. this country has been cursed with these commie b******s for way too long. it’s time to stand up, speak up and expose these scurrulus traitors to the light of day! the Bible says the uinfruitful works of evil are done in darkness. They can’t stand the light of truth, so let’s save our country and it’s constitution. liberals are loud and persistent, but they are no match for the truth. remember; there are more of us than them!

  19. What? I don’t understand the point you are trying to make.

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